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It has been interesting to see the various takes on social media around the corps being on furlough during the last game of the year. Significant chatter from current cadets and alumni about their disdain for being forced to watch football games and an overall resentment against Corps Squad classmates.

When I was a cadet (99-03) there were definitely pockets of anti-Corps Squad sentiment (unless a game was won and an over night was granted).

For those of you who are more seasoned alums, was there a resentment against athletes when you were there?
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From 86-91 there was a little, but I think overall we had other things on our minds for the most part

We also chose to go to a military school where it never occurred to us that we should piss and moan about being told what to do. Given that we had to go to SMIs, drill, etc etc it wasn’t that big of a deal to have to go to a football game.

Back in the 90s when I was spending a lot of time on campus, as well as dealing with cadets out on the town, I did see a level of arrogance out of at least a small portion of Corps squad types that I never witnessed when I was in school though. My impression is that things have improved since then but not sure

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Yes, but mainly it had to do with Knobs.  While we had to put up all of the 4th class system stuff during mess, Corps Squad got to eat like normal people.  We really didn't know or understand what it took to be a varsity athlete at that level.

There was some jealousy, but not like the animosity I've heard about in the last 10-15 years.

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NO.  And most of those d bags commenting, don't count and never will.  
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Any cadet/alumni who hates on Corps Squad doesn’t know $hit and is an as$hole. The amount of effort that the average cadet athlete has to put in above and beyond what it takes a normal cadet is beyond compare. The people who complain about athletes are the ones who run their pie holes and complain on this board and the sounding board and the you know you went there is board. They can kiss my as$.


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It has been interesting to see the various takes on social media around the corps being on furlough during the last game of the year. Significant chatter from current cadets and alumni about their disdain for being forced to watch football games and an overall resentment against Corps Squad classmates.

When I was a cadet (99-03) there were definitely pockets of anti-Corps Squad sentiment (unless a game was won and an over night was granted).

For those of you who are more seasoned alums, was there a resentment against athletes when you were there?

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I have to admit I resented Corps Squad Guys. Now that I’m older and I hope wiser, I realize that these guys had more on their plate than I did. Practice and pressure of winning games takes what they had to w whole new level
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Service academies have similar problems.
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I’ve seen what you’re talking about. It ticks me off, but posting comments only gives them what they live for.

Some of these cadets. You could shine their shoes for them every night, and get their room in MRI daily and they’d still hate you.

Our school has a huge issue of staying in their own lane. Anyways trying to mind someone else’s business instead of working on themselves.

But I think perspective is key with social media. It’s easy to let 20 guys bitching make you think 25,000 grads hat athletes.

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I have to admit I resented Corps Squad Guys. Now that I’m older and I hope wiser, I realize that these guys had more on their plate than I did. Practice and pressure of winning games takes what they had to w whole new level


You know......since graduating, and with very little time to think about it, I could give a rat's a$$ about some random cadet in the Corps trying to be mr/ms "military" cadet. A colossal waste of valuable study, and self improvement, time. 

But I do care, and have great respect for any cadet varsity athlete who graduates from our school.

Equal respect for Regimental Pipe Band members. Of course they should always be in front.

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a lot of the current resentment is symptomatic of a younger generation that is spoiled and complains about everything, you wonder why these folks ever wanted to go to a military college.  There was some mild resentment in the 70s though mostly over minor stuff like personal appearance, I thought many of the top athletes were great role models notably Brian Ruff and Kenny Caldwell.
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You know......since graduating, and with very little time to think about it, I could give a rat's a$$ about some random cadet in the Corps trying to be mr/ms "military" cadet. A colossal waste of valuable study, and self improvement, time. 

But I do care, and have great respect for any cadet varsity athlete who graduates from our school.

Equal respect for Regimental Pipe Band members. Of course they should always be in front.


I see whut you did there, Game

But don’t forget the regular band too... we had it harder back in the days when the PB was OF. We had to walk behind them and catch all the wool-filtered farts. Hell, I became the drum major just to get out in front of all of them.

God only knows how bad it was marching behind Biff

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God only knows how bad it was marching behind Biff


Gotta bring me into this mix?  Thanks ... and yes, I loved ripping one during pass and review.  The sound of a trombone player fumbling the slide from that stench was all the entertainment I needed.

I felt like there was a lot of resentment when I was a cadet ('99-'02) that continues to today.  My perception is the resentment stems from jealousy thinking the other person was getting a pass on something. The classmates that had a roommate that played a sport quickly saw the differing op tempo between a cadet athlete v.s a cadet non-athlete.  But in those days, the cadet athletes roomed mostly within their athletic teams.

I also think that we have a number of cadets (then and now) that never played a sport with an understanding of the conditioning and training required to play at a high level.



Note: I have tried to remove "Corps Squad" as an entity or term in my conversations.
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