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Dogs down by 20 going into the half.  Hard to figure how we stay with UGA and have Campbell putting it on us.  Started the game getting the tip, and had it stolen for a quick 3 by the Camels.  Oh boy.  Hope we get it on.
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DAWGs down by 15, 48-33 @ the half.  Different opponent, but same script, same result as always.

FB starts in 10 minutes.

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DAWGs lose another game at home to a Big Suck team, this time by 14, 87 - 73.

When will the suck end??!?!?!?!?!?!

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The first two games at home, against D1 opponents, have drawn 742 and 633...
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The first two games at home, against D1 opponents, have drawn 742 and 633...


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I sure didn't see any.
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We shot 11.1% from 3 (2 for 18) while Campbell was 10 for 26 (38.5%).  That's your ball game right there. 

Like I've said before - everyone in college ball can shoot the 3, so "embrace the pace" and hoisting up  3s is nothing special.  In fact, most teams have players than can shoot the 3 better than we can, so we need to find another style of play that better suits the type of player that we can recruit.  Kind of like the TO in FB.

Oh, and we only shot 65.5% on FTs (19 of 29).  That's right. We left 10 points on the table right there.  Same at UGA (66.7%) and vs UNC-A (56.5%).  See a pattern here?!?!?!?!?!

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We shot 11.1% from 3 (2 for 18) while Campbell was 10 for 26 (38.5%).  That's your ball game right there. 

Like I've said before - everyone in college ball can shoot the 3, so "embrace the pace" and hoisting up  3s is nothing special.  In fact, most teams have players than can shoot the 3 better than we can, so we need to find another style of play that better suits the type of player that we can recruit.  Kind of like the TO in FB.

Oh, and we only shot 65.5% on FTs (19 of 29).  That's right. We left 10 points on the table right there.  Same at UGA (66.7%) and vs UNC-A (56.5%).  See a pattern here?!?!?!?!?!


Nice post, 81Dawg.  Couple things...

Not all 3's are created equal.  In our first 3 games, we've gone 9-15, 14-33, and 2-10 from three, respectively.  Shooting 60% and 42.4% against UNC-A and Georgia are certainly acceptable, impressive even.  Against Georgia, we had 9 DAWGS take 3's and 7 players made at least one. 

Why?

Early on we played 5 out on O and made Crean make a choice.  Sag a little to avoid getting face cut or DHO'd into easy layups (see Rice's first bucket vs. UNCA on the DHO vs. aggressive chasers with no help).  Crean opted to do this.  And he paid for it.  Lightly contested 3's started falling for guys like Eddie Davis and Rudy Fitzgibbons.  Later on, as Batiste started getting two feet in the paint and drawing help, he'd find open shooters on sight-lines for down and ready 3s (I think Fitzgibbons drilled one of this variety in 1st half at UGA also).  

Live-ball TOs from the young guards (Higgins and Fitz) have hurt, but they're to be expected.  And let's be honest, Batiste is a different player than Stallworth was.  Batiste has done a nice job of running the team and can get us into stuff, but he's not going to give you 30 or 35 in a game.  Part of why Lou had to do that some last year is that teams would space Citadel out and dare them to beat them at the rim.  Faceguarding guys like Matt Frierson into games of less than 5 shot attempts.  

A kid like Lou was so dynamic that he could deal with the man on an island mentality, keep his dribble alive, and either convert at the rim himself or get to the FT line.  The players other than Tyson this team has with that skillset are Hayden B. and Kaelon H. Both have proven to play with wreckless abandon, though, and routinely pick up charges or over the back calls.  

It's a fine line.  

Ballhandlling/facilitators seem to be: TYSON, Brown, Huggins, Fitzgibbons, Harris, Gammons

Shooters: Abee, Rice, Gammons, Brown, Batiste

Screeners: Davis, Reed

Junk Yard Dogs: Brown, Reed 

Love the slip screens ATO and end of halfs.  The offense has shown solid movement off the ball on back cuts, false weak-side action, and the big fella sealing his man up the lane on ballscreen throwbacks.  

There is some potential on this side of the ball.  I'll try to write more about the defensive end later.  


    
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Thank you for a great post, just being a fan I only understood about half of what you wrote. Hope you will continue to share your insight seems you certainly know what you are talking about.
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Thank you for a great post, just being a fan I only understood about half of what you wrote. Hope you will continue to share your insight seems you certainly know what you are talking about.


Thanks for the kind words.

Became enamored with Coach Baucom's system at VMI over 10 years ago and have followed his teams closely since.  The courage he has to STICK WITH such an outside-the-box, innovative style is unparalleled in Division 1.  Westhead's 3-year run at Loyola Marymount was incredible, make no mistake, and Charleston is an incredible place.  But the Hank Gathers' (RIP) and Bo Kimble's of the world ain't walking through the doors of McAlister Field House and those dudes didn't have gated walls surrounding their campus. 

I am not justifying the losing but rather pointing out that Coach Baucom has amassed nearly 300 wins over a storied career at three separate schools, two of which are considered the most difficult places to win in all of Division 1.  He's one conference championships at the Division II level and fought for Big South crowns routinely at VMI.  The man knows how to coach.  Period. 

This year's team is still 'figuring things out' and deserves a fanbase that will support them through it.  Bright spots are everywhere if you look for 'em.

Examples...

1. Hayden's ability to finish around the rim, hit the trail three (Georgia), defend (watch him in 2-on-1 situations how he often gets stops by baiting the ballhandler into a bad decision), rebound, and even bring the ball up the court if need be.  (Our best press break may be him as the safety valve bringing it up against an opposing 4...see UNC-A game).  Point being: this dude is jack of all trades and one of our MVPs thus far.  He could be first team All So-Con. 

2. Tyson B. - great addition who's steady with the ball and can get to spots deep in the lane vs. 1v1 pressure (although maybe not as lightning quick as Lou).  Not selfish, can finish, and gets to the FT line.  Also rebounds!

3. Our trio of Frosh guards.  Abee has a beautiful stroke and we're already running plays for him.  Gammons can put it on the deck a little bit (nice spin move in one of the home games).  Fitzgibbons is fearless and has proven he can hit shots with a hand in his face. 

4. Kaelon Harris at Georgia.  The man is a mismatch off the bounce for guards and SFs.  If he's not injured and plays with a motor, he can score in the teens and get on the backboard. 

5. THE TEAM OUTREBOUNDED AN SEC OPPONENT BY 7.  ON THE ROAD. 

6. Eddie Davis III has been a pleasant surprise in spurts.  Big bodied screener, maintains spacing in the halfcourt, and is finishing around the rim over both shoulders.  He's not Zane, but for a guy who's been banged up his whole career he's doing yeoman's work. 

Not to sound pollyanna, but there are some positives.  To me, our start has more to do with the coaching staff figuring out the best schemes and personnel combinations on the defensive side of the ball.  In three games, we're only creating ~ 13 TOs a game.  Why?

Young team is cutting its teeth in the various presses DB runs.  This is not easy.  One game (Campbell?), the opponent tried to throw a skip pass vs. our odd man front 3/4 court zone press and the 'centerfielder' (Brown) picked it off for a live ball TO.  This was beautiful and shows progress.  With young guards (or even old guards who are new to the system like Tyson) it takes time to adapt to the nuances of these presses.  When we've trapped, for the most part we've paid for it.  This won't always be the case.    

Obviously, you have to score to get into a press to begin with.  

Other teams are taking advantage of our young backcourt to press us some, which has been an issue.

Whether we're in one of our many forms of zone, man-to-man, or even a Box and 1 (see Georgia vs. their frosh stud), DB has to pick his poison.  Vs. Campbell, they came in shooting ~ 30% from 3.  On Sat, they were 10-26 (38.5%).  This, alone, would not be a death knell for Citadel on most nights (we shot 2-10 from distance vs. Campbell but are at 37.9% as a team through 3 games, which is SOLID).  

What got us Saturday on that end was how well the Camels shot the ball from inside the arc, and not just layups.  They converted a scorching 24/36 2FGA, many of which were contested jumpers.  At least from what I remember.  

To win Tue I think we need to keep sharing the ball vs. an athletic M2M team (20 assists on 30 made FGs at Georgia compared to 10 assists on 26 makes vs. Campbell).  This will open up more of the TYPES OF THREES WE WANT TO SHOOT - once SEMO is in rotation.  Our kids seem unselfish and will pass up a good shot to get a great one.  We've got 10 guys who *can* make threes.  Also, we need to create a few more TOs, limit 2nd chance opportunities for them, and make FTs.  Guys must guard their yard in man and have more active hands in the zone.  This team has potential!

Bold prediction: we beat SEMO 

 

         


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