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Lost 3 - 0 to Woffy in 1st round of SOCON playoffs.

Finished season 1 - 19 overall, 0 - 10 in the SOCON.  Lone win on the year was Francis Marion.  Lost to soccer powerhouses such as:  SC Upstate (0-5); CSU (0-1);  Winthrop (0-3);  CofC (0-5);VMI (0-3). 

Team scored 8 goals in 20 matches & gave up 67.

http://citadelsports.com/news/2015/10/28/WSOC_1028153631.aspx?path=wsoc

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Some guy on the Citadel boards on Facebook has been openly calling for the coach to be fired. He has alluded to abusing players and chasing them not only off the team but out of school. Apparently two of our knobs have already been granted transfers.
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I'm willing to give the coach the benefit of the doubt, to be honest. I prefer evidence to innuendo. 

I don't know what happened this year, but his teams over the previous seasons had at least been competitive.

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Lets face it our Women's sports program is pretty much in shambles,other than possibly track and field.But, I'm not sure what you can do to improve things other than spend a lot of money,which we don't have.
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Well, the coach just resigned:

http://www.citadelsports.com/news/2015/10/29/WSOC_1029150136.aspx





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Good riddance, he was investigated by the NCAA for illegal recruiting but apparently it was hushed up by the AD.  Also heard from a highly reliable source that he had recently taken some of his players off campus in civilian clothes on a weeknight so they could enjoy "a night off", told them that if they were asked why they were off campus to say they were doing "community service".  Obviously has no integrity, cant coach worth a damn and has no place on our campus; bet you dollars to donuts he was given a choice of resigning or being fired.
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What exactly was covered up by the AD? How do you know that? That is a pretty serious accusation?
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NCAA investigates The Citadel for recruiting players not even qualified to play high school soccer. Film at 11.
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Went back and read his bio on the website. The guy had some success here. He coached here for nearly ten years imagine that...coaching a girls sport at a place like El Cid. This thread stinks alot of hot air, accusations and unfounded stories about the AD covering stuff. The same people post crap all over this website you know who you are. Q
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NCAA investigates The Citadel for recruiting players not even qualified to play high school soccer. Film at 11.


Actually, the players were fairly decent, good HS soccer players.  Problem is, they were just that - good to very good HS soccer players, but not "exceptional" or "outstanding" soccer players.

I'm sure VeeMee & CSU get the same type of player, so why do we get shut out by them & only score 8 goals all season (in 20 games;  average = 0.4 goals per game)?

To not even be close to competitive in almost every game is what is disheartening.

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Just taking a jab. Actually, with a couple goal scorers 2-3 yrs ago we were at least competitive. Are any of the girls on full scholly or do they do the partial thing? The answer to that question could dictate the type of talent we can get. I don't know.
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Guys, its girls soccer.  Its a non-revenue generating sport and really we have it because of law.  Without it, we can't have some of the other sports we want to see (aka Football, Basketball, and Baseball).  The real question, is investing in a strong women's soccer program the most effective for our athletic department?  I want to see our programs succeed (on and off the field).  I feel we typically succeed off the field.  But at what cost is winning on the field.  Football is our staple followed by Basketball (I think).  At least the potential for generating athletic revenue is in those sports (maybe baseball too).  Focus on winning in those first seems smarter.

The fact that we don't have a men's soccer team anymore also hurts this program.  We are not known for being a soccer school (having mens soccer would help) and based on what I have seen from the rest of the SoCon, we (athletic department, fans and alumni) don't invest the enough interest to help improve our standing.  

Side note:  Why is the early 80's band grad bring up the most obscure points?  first we had bobbyQ and now majstlo … or are they one and the same. 

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If the school makes the decision not to invest in this or any other revenue producing women's sport so that it is competitive in the SOCON, that's fine.

Then we should go the same route Davidson does w/ FB - move those sports to a non-scholarship league.  It's a travesty to give these "athletes" athletic scholarships when they are not deserving of one.  That's not to say that they are not outstanding students, cadets, etc or deserving or some other type of aid.  Just not a scholarship to play a varsity sport.

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I don't remember our men's soccer team ever hoisting a trophy either. Women's soccer satisfies a law. If you look at the academic and post-grad accomplishments of our female soccer players, you would know that this coach was a hell of a recruiter of successful cadets/women. That says a lot in our environment. Seeing posts from guys like StLo on here and the various armchair QBs on the Sounding Board, I wonder where they get off. A few attacked a guy for asking them for a little empathy for a guy who lost his income/livelihood. No need to dance on the man's grave. They call him "sport", "sensitive", and "young fella" and tell him he has no idea what he is talking about. This guy has a master's in sports management from The Citadel and has over 10 years of athletic department experience. The guy just got hired away from The Citadel by FSU. It is good to see that the REAL decision-makers know there is more to business than the opinions of the peanut gallery. The soccer coach leaving will be good for the soccer program, based upon the win-loss record. I just hope that the new coach can bring in as many blue chip female cadets. And remember that if two-time Socon Soccer Coach of the Year should leave after a couple bad seasons, perhaps the baseball coach should feel some fire. I just hope the athletic director ignores the calls from alumni like StLo, Plumley, and Burgess. Guys that probably do not have season tickets to any sport. Who probably are not even members of the Brigadier Foundation. Just internet warriors.


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If the school makes the decision not to invest in this or any other revenue producing women's sport so that it is competitive in the SOCON, that's fine.

Then we should go the same route Davidson does w/ FB - move those sports to a non-scholarship league.  It's a travesty to give these "athletes" athletic scholarships when they are not deserving of one.  That's not to say that they are not outstanding students, cadets, etc or deserving or some other type of aid.  Just not a scholarship to play a varsity sport.


I think you are missing one key attribute.  Title IX … I ain't a lawyer or expert in this stuff, but….

My understanding, we have to have x amount of opportunities for women to participate in NCAA athletic teams.  We have to fund their scholarships and provide for their teams accordingly.  If we don't we have to drop other sports.  

But, we don't have a Citadel Soccer Association or something similar to the CFA or CBA that helps support these programs.  I would venture to say we don't focus as heavily on recruiting to cut cost.  Additionally, they aren't leveraging resources from a men's soccer program (which may or may not be helpful)

Also, the student population for The Citadel is 2352 cadets.  7% are female (164). http://www.citadel.edu/root/info.  

Women Sports - 2015 Roster size:

Cross Country - 11
Golf - 6 (Winch's daughter icon roster … who knew)
Rifle - 9
Soccer - 20
Track and Field - 21
Volleyball - 13

Total - 80

Therefore, ~50% of the female population in the Corps is on an athletic team.  I am not sure about men's sports, but the ratio is much lower than 50%.  At a minimum, we are disproportionate in our support.

Then again, I may be talking out of my a$$ (not unheard of) … perfect for a sports forum discussion ...
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