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Spike is csu supposed to show the changes in their football rsults on their website? csu 2015.png
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Who cares? We have them 3 more years in our house. 
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I've been asked this question a lot lately. Here is all of the relevant information from the NCAA, as per the report on CSU's case.

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From the decision of the Committee on Infractions, released October 16, 2018:

 

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Vacation of records.

CSU acknowledged that ineligible participation occurred as a result of the violations in this case. Therefore, pursuant to Bylaws 19.9.7-(g) and 31.2.2.3, CSU shall vacate all regular season and conference tournament records and participation in which ineligible student-athletes detailed in this case competed from the time they became ineligible through the time they were reinstated as eligible for competition. This order of vacation includes all regular season competition and conference tournaments.

Further, if the ineligible student-athletes participated in NCAA postseason competition at any time they were ineligible, the institution's participation in the postseason shall be vacated. The individual records of the ineligible student-athletes shall also be vacated. However, the individual finishes and any awards for all eligible student-athletes shall be retained.

Further, the institution's records regarding its athletics programs, as well as the records of the head coaches, shall reflect the vacated records and shall be recorded in all publications in which such records are reported, including, but not limited to, institutional media guides, recruiting material, electronic and digital media plus institutional, conference and NCAA archives. Any institution that may subsequently hire the affected head coaches shall similarly reflect the vacated wins in their career records documented in media guides and other publications cited above.

Head coaches with vacated wins on their records may not count the vacated wins toward specific honors or victory "milestones" such as 100th, 200th or 500th career victories. Any public reference to the vacated contests shall be removed from the athletics department stationary, banners displayed in public areas and any other forum in which they may appear. Any trophies awarded by the NCAA in these sports shall be returned to the Association.

Finally, to ensure that all institutional and student-athlete vacations, statistics and records are accurately reflected in official NCAA publications and archives, the sports information director (or other designee as assigned by the director of athletics) must contact the NCAA Media Coordination and Statistics office and appropriate conference officials to identify the specific student-athletes and contests impacted by the penalties. In addition, the institution must provide the NCAA Media Coordination and Statistics office with a written report detailing those discussions.

This document will be maintained in the permanent files of the NCAA Media Coordination and Statistics office. This written report must be delivered to the office no later than 45 days following the release of this decision or, if the vacation penalty is appealed, at the conclusion of the appeals process. The sports information director (or designee) must also inform the Office of the Committees on Infractions (OCOI) of this submission to the NCAA Media Coordination and Statistics office.

 


Also from the report:

 

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During this period of probation, CSU shall:

a. Continue to develop and implement a comprehensive compliance and educational program on NCAA legislation to instruct coaches, the faculty athletics representative, all athletics department personnel and all institutional staff members with responsibility for NCAA recruiting and certification legislation;
b. Submit a preliminary report to the OCOI by November 30, 2018 setting forth a schedule for establishing this compliance and educational program and compliance with prescribed penalties;
c. File with the OCOI annual compliance reports indicating the progress made with this program by August 30 during each year of probation. Particular emphasis shall be placed on CSU's development and implementation of written policies and procedures for certifying student-athletes' eligibility and education and monitoring programs;
d. Inform prospects in all affected sport programs in writing that CSU is on probation for two years and detail the violations committed. If a prospect takes an official paid visit, the information regarding violations, penalties and terms of probation must be provided in advance of the visit. Otherwise, the information must be provided before a prospect signs an NLI; and
e. Publicize specific and understandable information concerning the nature of the violations by providing, at a minimum, a statement to include the types of violations and the affected sports programs and a direct, conspicuous link to the public infractions decision located on the athletic department's main webpage "landing page" and in the media guides for the affected sport programs. CSU's statement must: (i) clearly describe the violations, (ii) include the length of the probationary period associated with the case; and (iii) give members of the general public a clear indication of what happened in the case to allow the public (particularly prospects and their families) to make informed, knowledgeable decisions. A statement that refers only to the probationary period with nothing more is not sufficient.

 


My take on this is that CSU will eventually have to make the changes to its website to note the vacated results. I don't think the NCAA really expects the school to do so "no later than 45 days" after the release of the report, a period that has already passed. Rather, that was the amount of time CSU had to determine which players were ineligible, and which games/seasons/titles (and sports) were affected.

I honestly wouldn't anticipate seeing a change on the website (other than providing a link to the decision, which is specifically referenced in the report) anytime this month and maybe not until later in the winter/early spring. Someone is going to have to manually make all those changes on the website, and that is going to take time (and CSU doesn't have a large staff as it is, obviously).

The NCAA also isn't going to make any changes to its online stuff, other than postseason games (and even then that tends to be erratic, based on anecdotal evidence). I have no idea what the Big South conference office will do in terms of its record-keeping; my guess is, not much.

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Once again, WHO CARES? That dead horse is being fed to my dog as we speak.
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While they are down I am going to keep piling on, also refer to my twitter posts.

Also if there are any lawyers on the board that want to start a class action suit and get our ticket money back for the games that they cheated in I can do that also. The Memphis/Calipari case set the precedent that I will be happy to exploit.
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This is from Jeff Hartsell's article about the HC vacancy @ CSU: 


"CSU recently had to vacate 18 victories and one Big South title won under Chadwell during the 2014 and 15 seasons due to NCAA rule violations."

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