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http://www.islandpacket.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/david-lauderdale/article211397619.html

Not a big fan of two and done. Not to mention the things that she missed as a knobmore and a junior.
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I disagree.  Doubled down with college courses before matriculation and in summer school to get all her course work done (including leadership courses)....all while her dad battled cancer.  Magna Cum Laude....going to have a Masters age 20, followed by a mission trip and then she will be on the way to being a surgical oncologist.

Sounds like a good Cit-grad story and a true credit to our school.  IMO, we've only had a two-class system since I've been paying attention anyway (knob year and upper class).  Missing the knobmore and junior experience doesn't compare with this kind of drive and determination.....wouldn't have been value-added to hold her back.  Sometimes you have to just let a thoroughbred run.


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The epitome of drive and desire. Good on her!
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The thing she missed was four years of camaraderie and bonding with her classmates. I would not want to miss that, but it was her choice. I think she missed one of the most important aspects of being a Citadel cadet, but agree that she's a good story. And ultimately it was her choice. She'll either regret it or not but it only affects her.
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The thing she missed was four years of camaraderie and bonding with her classmates. I would not want to miss that, but it was her choice. I think she missed one of the most important aspects of being a Citadel cadet, but agree that she's a good story. And ultimately it was her choice. She'll either regret it or not but it only affects her.


Agree, but also earning the Cadet Citadel ring should involve 4 years in the Corps (3 minimum).

Randy Nesbit was a basketball scholarship transfer who came in as an academic Sophomore and only spent 3 years in the Corps.  He started in August 1977 with my class and graduated in May 1980.

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I agree on missing many aspects of The Citadel experience. Conversely, I learned this year of a 5th year senior who routinely flamed on knobs and still did not graduate in May. 6th year? Oh, but he’s a Summerall Guard so somehow he’s a glowing example of our school. I’d prefer the path of this young lady.
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How anyone could not be proud of this young is insane. She is a credit to the school and I hope she remembers the school when she is making big $.
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High School bud of mine went to Clemson for his freshman and sophmore years, enlisted in the Army Reserves, enrolled in The Citadel for his junior (knob) year, graduated his senior year, and commissioned in the Army ...

Absolutely right, 4 years has its benefits.  I get the camaradarie and bonding with classmates, but 4 years of leadership opportunities is what makes us unique (especially trying to lead a guy you once stood on line with).  Very few schools offer those lessons as an integrated way of life.

Not sure I would mandate a minimum limit though ... The question I would have is whether in 2 years, a graduate will have the passion for the college that those that have 4 years of camaradarie and bonding with their classmates may have.  Alumni that invest in the school in some fashion is what keeps our school thriving (in my opinion).
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The difference. Your buddy (and other academic junior transfers) took a “shortcut” to obtain the ring. This lady didn’t. If you’ve got the IQ and hoopspa to graduate in two years, wow. No chance in h3ll I could pull that off.
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I hope for all ours sake that our School/professors/classroom experience/academic workload can offer more in 2 years than the 2 years she substituted at the Whale Branch Early College high School. If not we are all in trouble and General Walters has his work cut out for him.

My daughter is graduating from Byrnes High School this year and they name a top 10 as I imagine all schools do. However they also offer a program with USC Upstate which many of the students take advantage of.  So the bottom line is that none of the students in the Byrnes top 10 attended Byrnes. They all attended some classes at Upstate that were weighted heavily because they were on a college campus. The one my daughter took over there required the same work as her high school classes.

Looks like to me the colleges have either lowered their threshholds of the curriculums or the SC High Schools have really upped their game. Not sure which it is but I have a pretty good idea.     
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The difference. Your buddy (and other academic junior transfers) took a “shortcut” to obtain the ring. This lady didn’t. If you’ve got the IQ and hoopspa to graduate in two years, wow. No chance in h3ll I could pull that off.


Um ... not sure I understand shortcut.  They both got a ring with 2 years of cadet experience.  She took a shorter route by grabbing college credits in High School vice spending two years in Cow College.  Graduation ages were quite different.  Either way they were cadets for 2 years.  Both took a shortcut in my opinion.  (NOTE: Biology is likely similar to Engineering, of which I am familiar, junior year studies are an academic ball buster.  Knob year and Junior level academics ... don't wish that on anyone)

The length of Cadet years is the debate here, not how impressive the path to her achievements.

Kudos to her.
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With what a college education costs these days I can’t blame the young lady for putting it in overdrive. From my calculations she probably saved her and/or her family $50,000!
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Agree w/ comments from both Biff & Biggun, but should she be able to say "I wear the ring", without having endured the FULL Cadet experience, and did she EARN the same ring as someone that endured 4 years of the Cadet experience?
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Does that mean Nancy Mace does not deserve a ring since she graduated in three years?  She was a knob and completed all the academic requirements.  When you live in the barracks, wear the uniform, live a cadet life you are entitled to the ring because you finished the academic requirements.  That is true if you did it in two years or five years.  Now days with study opportunities overseas etc. many cadets graduate with out 4 semesters living in the barracks.  The world has changed even at The Citadel.
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Does that mean Nancy Mace does not deserve a ring since she graduated in three years?  She was a knob and completed all the academic requirements.  When you live in the barracks, wear the uniform, live a cadet life you are entitled to the ring because you finished the academic requirements.  That is true if you did it in two years or five years.  Now days with study opportunities overseas etc. many cadets graduate with out 4 semesters living in the barracks.  The world has changed even at The Citadel.


See my previous post above (#5) where I said a MINIMUM of 3 years.

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